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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 10:40:45 am »
Meredith suspect 'danced at night club' right after killing

26 November 2007
Rudy Hermann Guede, the Ivory Coast immigrant suspected of sexually assaulting and killing Meredith Kercher in Perugia, went dancing at a disco after her murder.

Witnesses have testified to police that they saw Guede at the 'Domus' disco from two in the morning onwards until 4.30am on Friday November 2.

Kercher, 21, was found semi-naked with her throat cut on 1 November in the Italian university city.

These new revelations about Guede come as police hunting the killer of Kercher are seeking two more suspects.

Italian detectives apparently believe Kercher was murdered after a sex and drugs party which took "a tragic and nasty turn".

And despite already having three people in custody, officers are still reportedly hunting another man and a woman who were part of the group at Kercher's apartment, in Perugia, on the night of her death.

The manhunt was sparked by blood and "organic substances" on tissues recovered from Kercher's bedroom and the street outside, according to Italian newspaper reports.

None of the traces - which belong to "a male and a female" - are from the three suspects currently being held.

Kercher's flatmate, American student Amanda Knox, 20, her boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito, 23, and Guede, a convicted drugs dealer, are all in custody.

Over the weekend, it emerged Guede, 20, who is in custody in Germany, had given a vivid account of the night of Kercher's murder, even claiming she whispered the initials of her killer to him as she lay dying.




Suspect Guede, pictured here in a photo on his Facebook page

Guede, who is under armed guard in the German city of Mainz, was arrested after a tense cat and mouse game over the internet service Skype, which can be used for phone and email.

Police in Perugia believe he fled to Germany within hours of Miss Kercher's murder on November 1.

But a friend identified only as 'M' agreed to help them contact him.


In a hushed room crowded with senior police officers, M told Guede: "They are after you for the murder of Kercher. What have you done?"

His lawyer refused to reveal the name but said it would be "at the centre of the defence case" when Guede is extradited to Italy from Germany, where he was arrested.

The key questions are how he came to be involved with suspects Amanda Knox and her boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito – and why Kercher was killed.



The scene: Detectives apparently believe Meredith was murdered after a sex and drugs party at her apartment

The fugitive admitted he had been at Miss Kercher's house the night she died, saying she had invited "me round for a drink".

During a three-hour internet exchange he claimed they had sex, with Kercher a willing participant.

At that point, with police passing M notes of what to say, Guede denied he had killed her.

He claimed that he had gone to the bathroom because of an upset stomach when he heard the doorbell ring.

After that he said he heard "the English girl" screaming.

Her throat had been slashed "by an Italian lad with chestnut hair. We knocked into each other, I was also injured, but I cannot remember clearly the face of that man.


"Then I ran away, I was scared. I am not the one who killed her".

Forensic evidence places Guede undeniably at the centre of the crime. His fingerprints were all over Kercher's bedroom, his DNA has been found and there were even particles of his hair clenched in the dead girl's hands.

Police say their tests show that Kercher had not had "consensual sex" as Guede claimed, but had probably been held down.



There was also evidence of an attempt to hide her body in a cupboard.

Later today a court will decide whether a second post-mortem should be carried out on Kercher.

Her funeral has been held back despite her body being flown back to England two weeks ago.

The hearing before judge Claudia Mateini will decide if the original post-mortem by pathologist Luca Lalli was adequate or whether another should be carried out.

Laywers for Congolese bar owner Diya Patrick Lumumba, 38, made the request to establish a precise time of death as their client was held on suspicion of murdering Kercher.



Last night police sources in Perugia painted a picture of Guede, who has dual Ivory Coast and Italian citizenship, as a misfit "obsessed with foreign girls".

He was recently involved in a stabbing incident in Perugia's main square, where students and local youngsters smoke cannabis and drink late at night. Guede was five when he arrived in Italy from the Ivory Coast with his father.

Shortly afterwards, he was taken under the wing of wealthy Perugia businessman Paolo Caporali, now 62. He fostered Guede "to give him a chance in life" and sent him to Vittorio Emanuele II school – one of the city's best.

Initially, the act of charity appeared to have been a success. "My sons considered him as a brother," recalls Mr Caporali. Teachers described Rudy as "happy, lively and well integrated".

Then he began taking drugs, his character changed abruptly and Mr Caporali realised he had made a mistake.

He recalled: "I was trying to help Rudy build a future. I thought I gave him a good opportunity.

"But he revealed himself to be a great liar. He would say he would go to lessons, then skip them. His results were lousy. He preferred sitting in front of the TV and video games to studying.

"He had no interest in work either. When I realised what was happening I wanted to distance him from my family. He went away."

Guede left for a while, but when he returned to Perugia in January, Mr Caporali gave him a second chance, finding him work as a gardener.


It was another mistake. Guede simply vanished again in August and the next Mr Caporali heard of him was when detectives investigating Kercher's murder arrived at his door.

Police are confident that the three suspects were brought together by drugs, and that Knox is the key figure.


Reports at the weekend shed fresh light on her character and behaviour.


Lumumba, who employed Knox as a barmaid, described her as irrational, vengeful and insanely jealous.

"I don't think she's evil," he said.

"To be evil, you have to have a soul. Amanda doesn't. She's empty; dead inside. She's the ultimate actress, able to switch her emotions on and off in an instant."

Sollecito described her as having "an almost non-existent contact with reality".

In a letter from prison to his father he wrote: "She lived life like a dream, reality didn't enter. Her only goal was the search for pleasure at all times."

But he continued to deny any involvement in Kercher's murder, and said he believes Knox is innocent, too, writing that even the thought that his girlfriend could be involved is "impossible".

Lumumba said Knox, who styled herself Foxy Knoxy on a website, was eaten up with jealousy of Kercher, who he described as a "natural charmer".

He said: "Amanda tried much harder, but was less popular. I didn't realise it at the time, but now I see that she was jealous. She wanted to be the queen bee, and as the weeks passed, it became clear that she wasn't.

"She hated anyone stealing her limelight – and that included Meredith."

Lumumba eventually sacked Knox as a barmaid over her obsessive flirting with customers. That, he says, was why she framed him.

"She was angry and wanted revenge," he said. "By the end, she hated me."

Those who knew Knox also say she was a "woman hater", possibly as the result of her mother having a string of affairs while she was growing up.

Knox's account of what happened on the night of November 1 has changed repeatedly.

At one stage, after asking for paper to write down her thoughts, she wrote: "I know all of this is very strange. But what has happened is, to me, like for others, very confused. Let me tell you something, in my mind. I have things I remember and others which are very confused. Truth? It is that I am not sure of what is the truth."

Knox, Sollecito and Guede have been described as misfits whose drug use removed them even further from society.

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Re: trial in Italy
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2009, 11:18:55 am »

How Strong Is the Evidence Against Amanda Knox?




Defendant Amanda Knox, right, stands in court in Perugia, Italy, as she faces a charge of murder
PIETRO CROCCHIONI / EPA


An attractive American student on trial for murder can count on support 6,000 miles away in her native Seattle. There, one of Amanda Knox's most vocal backers is attorney Anne Bremner, who has offered her counsel pro bono to the accused's family and is a spokeswoman for Friends of Amanda. On Friday, she sat down with TIME to go over the case against Knox, who took the witness stand on Friday in her murder trial.

Video footage from the crime scene of British student Meredith Kercher's murder flickers on a laptop screen as Bremner points out what she deems critical flaws in the collection of evidence. After placing rulers on the sides of a bloody shoeprint, for example, a blue-rubber-gloved hand reaches down with a piece of white cloth and scrubs the bloody mark off the tile floor before putting the cloth into an evidence tube. This happens three times for three separate footprints. In film footage taken at least a day later, another team of investigators attempts, using photographs, to place where the footprints had been. "They should have lifted the tile," Bremner says, shaking her head.
(Read a story about Amanda Knox's testimony in Perugia.)

In what is surely a well-rehearsed demonstration by now, Bremner goes on to address the case against Knox, point by point. The prosecution, she says, is most likely relying on a knife found at the house of Knox's then boyfriend and fellow accused Rafaelle Sollecito. That knife has Knox's DNA on the handle and what some forensic scientists say is Kercher's DNA on the tip. But Bremner dismisses the idea that it is the knife that killed Kercher: "They never found the murder weapon." Bremner claims that a bloody print on the bed linens conveys the shape of the actual murder weapon and that the knife in question "doesn't match an outline of the knife on the bed." Additionally, Bremner says, expert testimony has already indicated that at least two of the wounds on Kercher's neck couldn't have been made by that particular blade. That aside, she points out, it's not surprising that Knox's DNA would be on its handle; she prepared dinner with Sollecito in his apartment.

As to whether the DNA on the tip belongs to Kercher, experts disagree. Patrizia Stefanoni, a police forensics expert who testified in the pretrial hearing in May, suggested that it was Kercher's DNA on the tip of the knife — and that the way the genetic material was positioned indicated the knife had probably been used to puncture the skin. But other experts who have analyzed the DNA evidence for the defense suggest that poor sample quality and possible contamination undermine the accuracy of these results.

Contamination was also likely with the DNA found on Kercher's bra clasp, Bremner says, pointing out that the clasp wasn't collected until more than two months after the murder and that throughout film footage of the crime scene investigation it periodically changes location — suggesting it was picked up and moved several times.
(Read how the "Foxy Knoxy" story has roiled Italy.)

Bremner goes on to criticize the character assassination the media have directed at Knox since the beginning of the trial, which she believes gives the defense an uphill battle in front of a jury that is unsequestered and thus exposed to the often explosive stories in the press. Accounts of Knox doing splits and cartwheels as she awaited questioning by the police are a distortion of the behavior of a teenager exhibiting restlessness, Bremner argues, and depictions of a hypersexualized relationship with her "on-again, off-again" boyfriend Sollecito have been overly dramatized. "They met at a [classical] music concert and had been dating for two weeks when this happened," she says. "It's hard to be 'on-again, off-again' in two weeks."

Her list goes on. It was reported that Knox went out to buy lingerie and had an explicit conversation about sex with Sollecito as the investigation first got under way. "That house was a crime scene," Bremner explains, "so she couldn't go back in and didn't have any clothes. And the person who supposedly reported that this conversation had been overheard didn't even speak English, and their conversation was in English."

Reports about her supposedly salacious sex life — including a book, Amanda e gli altri, that according to Knox's ex-boyfriend was based on a mere 10 pages of an old diary — have contributed to her inability to get a fair trial, Bremner claims. "The tabloid media glommed onto the name Foxy Knoxy," Bremner says, referring to the moniker that peppers news coverage and that suggests that Knox had given herself the nickname in reference to her sexual proclivities. "It referred to playing soccer in Seattle as a kid," Bremner says. She and other Knox supporters draw a very different picture of the Seattle native: an athletic, hardworking student, now 21, who maintained three jobs while studying at the University of Washington to be able to afford to study abroad; a lover of the outdoors who cherished hiking in the mountains that flank her home city; an innocent victim of rapid-fire media and the public's bottomless hunger for lurid scandal.

Still, there are plenty of people who argue that Knox positioned herself in front of the firing squad. Why did she contradict herself, telling investigators that she had been present at the scene of the murder and that Patrick Lumumba, her boss at the bar where she worked a couple of nights a week, assaulted Meredith? She had originally stated that she'd spent the entire night at Sollecito's home. Knox's defenders suggest that a combination of exhaustion, after being questioned for hours, and police interrogation tactics may have led her to make the comments. Indeed, when Lumumba's airtight alibi got him released from jail, after a couple of weeks, Knox wrote ecstatically about it in her prison journal ("Patrick got out today! Finally! Something is going right!") and later wrote of her remorse at ever having implicated him, saying it was under extreme duress and a result of police "brainwashing." Her testimony Friday took it one step further: she told the jury that she had also been struck twice during the interrogation. (Another accused accomplice, Rudy Guede, has already been sentenced to 30 years in prison for Kercher's murder; Knox has acknowledged being acquainted with Guede.)

As the trial goes on, the prosecution will surely continue to drive home their most damning points: the knife; Knox's statement putting herself at the house the night Kercher was slain. And the defense will probably point to the crime-scene video, with its frequent stops and starts, and to alleged flaws in the investigation — for example, when a female investigator reaches down with tweezers to pluck a hair sample off the blood-stained duvet, her own long hair dangles down beside her.

Meanwhile, back in Seattle, Knox's supporters will be following all this from afar. And observing a bitter milestone: this weekend, Knox's testimony coincides with what would have been her college graduation. Her former classmates "are commencing their lives," Bremner says, "and she's sitting in jail."

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Re: trial in Italy
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2009, 12:20:36 pm »
La Repubblica ( a newspaper)

Police pathologists had found the "deeeply imprinted" marks of three fingers and a thumb in Kercher's throat, confirming the theory that an attempt was made to strangle her before she was killed with a knife. Her jaw bone was fractured. A witness told police that a "colored man" running from the direction of the cottage at about 10:30 p.m. barged so violently into her boyfriend that he nearly knocked him over.


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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 12:34:58 pm »
Johan,

Do you think Knox and her boyfriend were really involved in this girl's murder?

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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2009, 01:34:09 pm »
Johan,

Do you think Knox and her boyfriend were really involved in this girl's murder?

NO

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Re: trial in Italy
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2009, 01:54:54 pm »
minister for Administrative Simplification  rothf

Italy is busy with clearing the Italian Laws &Code. It is crucial and it is therefore rigorously addressed. Thursday, the Italian Government decided, in fact once as 29,095 unnecessary laws and regulations to remove, reports the Italian news agency ANSA.

Italy has some 120,000 different laws and regulations. No European country has more. They are so many that it is almost impossible to know them and apply. And finding the right law is also a huge task. There are already far outdated. The laws now in one blow from the statute are removed, there are already deployed in 1948.

The comprehensive legislation in Italy gives big problems. So great that it even has a minister for Administrative Simplification: Roberto Calderoli. He was also the initiative for the cleanup.

Besides the cut in the Code, the Government also decided a free online archive laws, so that people can easily look up laws.

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Re: trial in Italy
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2009, 04:29:53 am »
How To Clean a Bloody Knife
Does DNA come off with soap and water?
By Juliet Lapidos
Posted Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2007, at 4:01 PM ET



Amanda Knox

Investigators in Perugia, Italy, have found new evidence linking a 20-year-old American exchange student, Amanda Knox, to the brutal stabbing death of her roommate, British student Meredith Kercher. According to the latest reports, Knox and her Italian boyfriend, Raphael Sollecito, cleaned the alleged murder weapon—an 8-inch black-handled kitchen knife—with bleach. Nevertheless, police discovered Kercher's DNA on the tip and Knox's DNA by the handle. Is it possible to clean DNA off a knife?

Yes, if you know what you're doing. Knox and Sollecito were on the right track: Bleach contains sodium hypochlorite, an extremely corrosive chemical that can break the hydrogen bonds between DNA base pairs and thus degrade or "denature" a DNA sample. In fact, bleach is so effective that crime labs use a 10 percent solution (one part commercial bleach to nine parts water) to clean workspaces (PDF) so that old samples don't contaminate fresh evidence. Likewise, when examining ancient skeletal remains (PDF)http://www.anthro.ucdavis.edu/card/pubs/kemp&smith2005.pdf, researchers first douse the remains in diluted bleach to eliminate modern DNA from the surface of bones or teeth.

So, why did Knox and Sollecito's bleaching gambit fail? It's difficult to swab a knife thoroughly. Dried blood can stick to the nooks and crannies in a wood handle, to the serrated edge of a blade, or become lodged in the slit between the blade and the hilt. With help from a Q-tip, it's possible to eliminate most stains, but what's not visible to the naked eye might still be visible to a microscope, and sophisticated crime labs need only about 10 cells to build a DNA profile.

Bleach is perhaps the most effective DNA-remover (though evidently no methodology is failsafe), but it's not the only option. Deoxyribonuclease enzymes, available at biological supply houses, and certain harsh chemicals, like hydrochloric acid, also degrade DNA strands. It's even possible to wipe a knife clean of DNA-laden hair follicles, saliva, and white blood cells with generic soap and warm water. The drawback to this last method is that the tell-tale cells don't just disappear once off the knife. They linger on sponges, in drains, and even in sink traps, where wily investigators search for trace evidence.




http://www.slate.com/id/2178383/

Use of bleach to eliminate contaminating DNA from
the surface of bones and teeth
(PDF)
http://www.anthro.ucdavis.edu/card/pubs/kemp&smith2005.pdf
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Re: trial in Italy
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2009, 07:09:58 am »
Transcript of Amanda Knox's handwritten statement to police on the evening of November 6, the day she was arrested:

This is very strange, I know, but really what happened is as confusing to me as it is to everyone else. I have been told there is hard evidence saying that I was at the place of the murder of my friend when it happened. This, I want to confirm, is something that to me, if asked a few days ago, would be impossible.

I know that Raffaele has placed evidence against me, saying that I was not with him on the night of Meredith's murder, but let me tell you this. In my mind there are things I remember and things that are confused. My account of this story goes as follows, despite the evidence stacked against me:

On Thursday November 1 I saw Meredith the last time at my house when she left around 3 or 4 in the afternoon. Raffaele was with me at the time. We, Raffaele and I, stayed at my house for a little while longer and around 5 in the evening we left to watch the movie Amelie at his house. After the movie I received a message from Patrik [sic], for whom I work at the pub "Le Chic". He told me in this message that it wasn't necessary for me to come into work for the evening because there was no one at my work.

Now I remember to have also replied with the message: "See you later. Have a good evening!" and this for me does not mean that I wanted to meet him immediately. In particular because I said: "Good evening!" What happened after I know does not match up with what Raffaele was saying, but this is what I remember. I told Raffaele that I didn't have to work and that I could remain at home for the evening. After that I believe we relaxed in his room together, perhaps I checked my email. Perhaps I read or studied or perhaps I made love to Raffaele. In fact, I think I did make love with him.

However, I admit that this period of time is rather strange because I am not quite sure. I smoked marijuana with him and I might even have fallen asleep. These things I am not sure about and I know they are important to the case and to help myself, but in reality, I don't think I did much. One thing I do remember is that I took a shower with Raffaele and this might explain how we passed the time. In truth, I do not remember exactly what day it was, but I do remember that we had a shower and we washed ourselves for a long time. He cleaned my ears, he dried and combed my hair.

One of the things I am sure that definitely happened the night on which Meredith was murdered was that Raffaele and I ate fairly late, I think around 11 in the evening, although I can't be sure because I didn't look at the clock. After dinner I noticed there was blood on Raffaele's hand, but I was under the impression that it was blood from the fish. After we ate Raffaele washed the dishes but the pipes under his sink broke and water flooded the floor. But because he didn't have a mop I said we could clean it up tomorrow because we (Meredith, Laura, Filomena and I) have a mop at home. I remember it was quite late because we were both very tired (though I can't say the time).

The next thing I remember was waking up the morning of Friday November 2nd around 10am and I took a plastic bag to take back my dirty cloths to go back to my house. It was then that I arrived home alone that I found the door to my house was wide open and this all began. In regards to this "confession" that I made last night, I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the verity of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly. I understand that the police are under a lot of stress, so I understand the treatment I received.

However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers. In my mind I saw Patrik in flashes of blurred images. I saw him near the basketball court. I saw him at my front door. I saw myself cowering in the kitchen with my hands over my ears because in my head I could hear Meredith screaming. But I've said this many times so as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my head has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked.

But the truth is, I am unsure about the truth and here's why:

1. The police have told me that they have hard evidence that places me at the house, my house, at the time of Meredith's murder. I don't know what proof they are talking about, but if this is true, it means I am very confused and my dreams must be real.

2. My boyfriend has claimed that I have said things that I know are not true. I KNOW I told him I didn't have to work that night. I remember that moment very clearly. I also NEVER asked him to lie for me. This is absolutely a lie. What I don't understand is why Raffaele, who has always been so caring and gentle with me, would lie about this. What does he have to hide? I don't think he killed Meredith, but I do think he is scared, like me. He walked into a situation that he has never had to be in, and perhaps he is trying to find a way out by disassociating himself with me.

Honestly, I understand because this is a very scary situation. I also know that the police don't believe things of me that I know I can explain, such as:

1. I know the police are confused as to why it took me so long to call someone after I found the door to my house open and blood in the bathroom. The truth is, I wasn't sure what to think, but I definitely didn't think the worst, that someone was murdered. I thought a lot of things, mainly that perhaps someone got hurt and left quickly to take care of it. I also thought that maybe one of my roommates was having menstral [sic] problems and hadn't cleaned up. Perhaps I was in shock, but at the time I didn't know what to think and that's the truth. That is why I talked to Raffaele about it in the morning, because I was worried and wanted advice.

2. I also know that the fact that I can't fully recall the events that I claim took place at Raffaele's home during the time that Meredith was murdered is incriminating. And I stand by my statements that I made last night about events that could have taken place in my home with Patrik, but I want to make very clear that these events seem more unreal to me that what I said before, that I stayed at Raffaele's house.

3. I'm very confused at this time. My head is full of contrasting ideas and I know I can be frustrating to work with for this reason. But I also want to tell the truth as best I can. Everything I have said in regards to my involvement in Meredith's death, even though it is contrasting, are the best truth that I have been able to think.

[illegible section]

I'm trying, I really am, because I'm scared for myself. I know I didn't kill Meredith. That's all I know for sure. In these flashbacks that I'm having, I see Patrik as the murderer, but the way the truth feels in my mind, there is no way for me to have known because I don't remember FOR SURE if I was at my house that night. The questions that need answering, at least for how I'm thinking are:

1. Why did Raffaele lie? (or for you) Did Raffaele lie?
2. Why did I think of Patrik?
3. Is the evidence proving my pressance [sic] at the time and place of the crime reliable? If so, what does this say about my memory? Is it reliable?
4. Is there any other evidence condemning Patrik or any other person?
3. Who is the REAL murder [sic]? This is particularly important because I don't feel I can be used as condemning testimone [sic] in this instance.

I have a clearer mind that I've had before, but I'm still missing parts, which I know is bad for me. But this is the truth and this is what I'm thinking at this time. Please don't yell at me because it only makes me more confused, which doesn't help anyone. I understand how serious this situation is, and as such, I want to give you this information as soon and as clearly as possible.

If there are still parts that don't make sense, please ask me. I'm doing the best I can, just like you are. Please believe me at least in that, although I understand if you don't. All I know is that I didn't kill Meredith, and so I have nothing but lies to be afraid of.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1570225/Transcript-of-Amanda-Knoxs-note.html
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Re: trial in Italy
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2009, 07:47:35 am »
Raffaele Sollecito story

ITALY MURDER DETAILS EMERGE

Kate Mansey In Perugia, Italy 4/11/2007

EXCLUSIVE MURDERED IN ITALY..MEREDITH, 21 Friend tells how he broke down door

A friend of murdered British student Meredith Kercher told last night how he discovered her body in her blood-spattered bedroom.

Raffaele Sollecito, 23, relived the horror of finding the body of the pretty brunette who died when her killer broke into her home and cut her throat as she lay in her bed.

"It is something I never hope to see again," he said. "There was blood everywhere and I couldn't take it all in.

"My girlfriend was her flatmate and she was crying and screaming, 'How could anyone do this?'"

Meredith, 21, who had been studying in Perugia, Italy since August, was murdered the day after a Halloween fancy dress party at the city's British-themed Merlin Pub on Wednesday.

On Thursday she posted happy snaps of herself in fancy dress on the internet and in the evening had returned home alone after watching a film at a friend's house.

But her flatmates - two Italian girls and one American - had all stayed out for the night, so the gruesome discovery wasn't made until the next day.

Raffaele had spent the night at his own house on the other side of the city with his girlfriend, Meredith's American flatmate Amanda Knox, 22.

He said: "It was a normal night. Meredith had gone out with one of her English friends and Amanda and I went to party with one of my friends.

"The next day, around lunchtime, Amanda went back to their apartment to have a shower."

As Amanda, from Washington DC, stepped into house she could tell there was something terribly wrong.

Raffaele said: "When she arrived the front door was wide open. She thought it was weird, but thought maybe someone was in the house and had left it ajar.

"But when she went into the bathroom she saw spots of blood all over the bath and sink. That's when she started getting really afraid and ran back to my place because she didn't want to go into the house alone. So I agreed to go back with her. When we walked in together, I knew straight away it was wrong. It was really eerily silent and the bathroom was speckled with blood like someone had flicked it around, just little spots.

"We went into the bedroom of Philomena (another flatmate who was away) and it had been ransacked, like someone had been looking for something. But when we tried Meredith's room, the door was locked. She never normally locked her bedroom door and that really made us frightened."

Their panic grew as they desperately banged on her door.

Raffaele said: "I tried to knock it down. I thought maybe she was ill... I made a dent, but I wasn't strong enough on my own so I called the police."

When police arrived they knocked the door down straightaway and Raffaele followed them into the room.

"I couldn't believe what I was seeing," he said. "It was hard to tell it was Meredith at first but Amanda started crying and screaming. I dragged her away because I didn't want her to see it, it was so horrible.

"It seems her killer came through the window because it was smashed and there was glass all over the place. It was so sinister because other parts of the house were just as normal."

Raffaele, a computer science student, said Meredith had recently started seeing an Italian neighbour called Giacamo who lived in the apartment beneath the girls. He said: "Meredith was always smiling and happy. She was really popular and it's horrible that someone would want to hurt her."

Police hunting for the killer found two mobile phones in nearby Parco Saint Angelo, a favourite hang out for heroin addicts.

One phone belonged to Meredith, the other is thought to belong to her flatmate, Philomena.

Yesterday, as police distributed posters around the town appealing for witnesses, Meredith's flatmate Amanda Knox revisited the scene with detectives after a full day of questioning.

Investigators say the killer most probably broke in through a window, locked Meredith's door after killing her and then escaped in a hurry, leaving the front door open and throwing the mobile phones into woodland as he fled. Last night, in a significant development, detectives said they believed Meredith had sex on the night she was murdered - but it was not clear whether it was consensual or forced.

Earlier senior detective Marco Chiacchiera said it wasn't clear if there was a sexual motive to her killing.

"Her T-shirt was pulled up over her breasts and she was naked but apart from the cut to her neck, there were no scratches or other wounds on her body," he said.

He added: "The cut to her neck appears to have been made by a heavy weapon. It was a clean cut and it looks as if it was made by something pointed rather than a sharp blade."

Meredith, from Coulsdon, Surrey, had been studying Italian on an exchange year from Leeds University.

Her family in England spent yesterday comforting each other behind closed doors at the family home. Meredith's father John, who is believed to be separated from her mother Arlene, arrived at the house on Friday night. Her older brother Lyle, 28, and sister Stephanie, 24, live with their mother.

They were joined on Friday by their married brother John, 31, who lives in North London.

Soon after learning of the tragedy, her father John, 64, said: "In my heart I just can't believe it's her.

"When I heard, I rang her phone immediately and it was turned off. I must have called it 20 times in 30 minutes. I just couldn't believe it".

Meredith's university friends in Perugia yesterday spoke of their distress at her killing. Polish student Tom Bednerek, 22, said: "It's really hard to understand why or how this could happen.

"I know a lot of people who were at the party that night and it seemed they all had a good time.

"I had heard that there was a lover's note left lying next to her on the bed, but I didn't normally see her with a boyfriend.

"She just seemed to like going out with her friends and socialising with big groups of people.

"She had a lot of friends of all nationalities. We all just feel so sad for her family."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sunday-mirror/2007/11/04/italy-murder-details-emerge-98487-20058122/

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Perugia Murder – Amanda’s Version
She was with Patrick yesterday and she was screaming. I was scared and covered my ears”
PERUGIA – “Patrick and Meredith were in Meredith’s bedroom while I must have stayed in the kitchen. I can’t remember how long they were together in the bedroom but the only thing I can say is that at a certain point I heard Meredith screaming. I was scared and put my hands over my ears. I can’t remember anything else. I’m so confused. I can’t remember if Meredith was screaming or if I heard any thuds because I was in shock but I could imagine what was going on”.
 
It was early yesterday morning when Amanda Knox, Meredith’s American friend and flatmate, revealed that she had been present at the murder. She broke down after police officers accused her of lying when she claimed to have left the flat at 5 pm on 1 November and come back the following morning, when Meredith’s brutally murdered body was found. Amanda’s boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, had been interviewed a few hours earlier. He admitted that the alibi was false while denying he had taken part in the crime. Amanda realised she had no way out but she claimed her role was marginal, accusing Patrick Lumumba Diya of being the murderer. Nevertheless, her story was confused and it was clear she was not telling the whole truth. It was enough for the public prosecutor, however, who signed warrants for the arrest of the two men.
 
“I CAN’T REMEMBER” – Amanda Knox’s story begins at 5.45 am yesterday morning. “I want to tell you what happened because it’s left me really shocked and I’m terrified of Patrick, the African boy who owns the Le Chic pub where I work sometimes. I saw him on the evening of 1 November after I replied ‘see you’ to his text message. We met at about 9 pm on the basketball court in Piazza Grimana and went to my place. I can’t remember if Meredith was already there or if she turned up later. What I can say is that they went into the bedroom”. Amanda goes into detail and describes the assault. Then she adds, “I met Patrick this morning [5 November – Ed.] outside the University for Foreigners and he asked me questions. He wanted to know what questions the police had asked me. I think he also asked me if I wanted to speak to journalists, perhaps because he was trying to find out if I knew anything about Meredith’s death”.
 
Amanda then talks about her boyfriend: “I’m not sure if Raffaele was there that evening but I clearly remember waking up at his place, in his bed. I went back home in the morning and found the door open”. Officers from the flying squad and special operational centre (SCO) say that after making her statement, Amanda put her hands on her head and shook it several times. In the warrant, the public prosecutor writes: “The sexual intercourse involving Meredith and Patrick must be regarded as violent, given the particularly threatening context in which it took place, and to which Ms Knox must have contributed with Diya”.
 
BOYFRIEND’S LIES – The printouts of telephone calls examined by the post office police proved crucial to establishing the movements of those involved. They were also incompatible with earlier statements. The first to admit to talking “a whole lot of rubbish” was Raffaele Sollecito. He was questioned at the police station at 10.40 pm on 5 November, two days ago. He had already been interviewed after Meredith’s body was discovered but claimed he did not know what had happened. “I was out with Amanda”, he had said. Then he realised that the situation had changed and decided to change his version of events.
 
Raffaele Sollecito’s statement begins at 10.40 pm on Tuesday. “I’ve known Amanda for a fortnight. She’s been sleeping at my flat since the evening we met. On 1 November, I woke up at about 11 am. I had breakfast with Amanda and then she left. I went back to bed. I got to her place at 1 or 2 pm. Meredith was there but she left in a hurry about 4 pm without saying where she was going. Amanda and I went into town at 6 pm or so but I can’t remember what we did. We were in the town centre until 8.30 or 9 pm. At 9 pm, I went home on my own while Amanda said she was going to Le Chic because she wanted to see some friends. That’s when we said goodbye. I went home, smoked a joint and had dinner but I can’t remember what I ate. At about 11 pm, my dad called on the landline. I remember that Amanda hadn’t come back yet. I surfed the net for another two hours after dad called and only stopped when Amanda got back, at about 1 am, I suppose. I can’t remember what she was wearing or if she was wearing the same clothes she had on when she said goodbye before dinner. I can’t remember if we had sex that night. The following morning, we got up at about 10 am and she told me she wanted to go home, have a shower and change. She left at around 10.30 and I went back to sleep. When Amanda left, she took an empty carrier bag, saying she needed it for her dirty washing. She came back about 11.30 and I remember she had changed her clothes. She had her usual bag with her”.
 
According to Sollecito, this was when Amanda told him she was worried. “She told me that when she got home, she found the door wide open and blood stains in the small bathroom. She asked me whether I thought it was strange. I said I did and advised her to phone her friends. She told me she’d phoned Filomena [another woman living in the murder house – Ed.] and that Meredith wasn’t answering”.
 
GOING HOME – The pair went back to the flat together. This is Raffaele Sollecito’s version of next few moments: “She unlocked the door and I went in. I noticed that Filomena’s door was open. There was glass on the floor and the room was a mess. Amanda’s door was open but the room was tidy. Then I went to Meredith’s door and saw it was locked. First, I checked to see if what Amanda had told me about the blood in the bathroom was true. I noticed there were drops of blood in the sink and there was something strange on the bathmat, a mixture of blood and water, while the rest of the bathroom was clean. Nothing else was out of place. Just then, Amanda went into the big bathroom and came out looking scared. She clung to me and said that when she was showering earlier, there had been stools in the lavatory bowl but now it was clean. I wondered what was going on and went out to see if I could climb up to Meredith’s window. I tried to force the door but I couldn’t open it. Then I decided to call my sister for advice because she’s a lieutenant in the carabinieri. She told me to call 112 but by this time the postal police had arrived. In my earlier statement, I told you a whole lot of rubbish because Amanda convinced me about her version and I didn’t think about the contradictions”.
 
 
Fiorenza Sarzanini

http://www.corriere.it/english/articoli/2007/11_Novembre/07/perudia_murder.shtml

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Rudy Says “If I’d Been A Man, Meredith Would Be Alive” – No Response From Sollecito
Sollecito invokes right to remain silent during questioning in prison. Guede landed at Fiumicino from Frankfurt just before 1 pm
Rudy Guede


PERUGIA – “If I’d been a man, I could have saved her”, writes Rudy Guede in one of his many letters to his lawyers and his father. Guede has now returned to Italy from Germany, where he was arrested for the Meredith Kercher murder. “When I shut my eyes, all I can see is red”, he adds. “I’d never seen so much blood. All that blood on her pretty face”.
 
Rudy Guede will be interviewed at Capanne prison on Friday morning by the investigating magistrate, Claudia Matteini, who also signed warrants for the arrest of the other three suspects, Amanda Knox, Raffaele Sollecito and Patrick Lumumba Diya, who was later released. The public prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini, and investigators from the flying squad and special operational centre (SCO), will also be present. Guede, from the Ivory Coast, arrived at Perugia prison on Thursday afternoon from Fiumicino airport, where his flight from Frankfurt had landed. He was immediately placed in solitary confinement awaiting questioning. Wearing jeans and a light blue pullover, he looked thinner than in the photographs circulated three weeks ago, appearing tired and with a glazed look in his eyes. Lawyers who visited him in prison thought he looked calm.
 
Rudy will waive his right to remain silent when he is questioned by the investigating magistrate. “I have only one truth and that is what I will tell”, he said again yesterday. In effect, he has much to explain. In his interview with German magistrates, which cannot be used at the trial, there are many obscure points. First and foremost, he will have to supply convincing proof that he is not the murderer, since of the three suspects currently being held, he is the one in the trickiest situation, having abandoned the dying Meredith without calling for help. “I was in the house”, he admitted to magistrates, “but I had nothing to do with her death”.
 
Guede denies having had sex with or raping Meredith but will have to explain why scientific evidence indicates the precise opposite. He will also have to explain all the inconsistencies in the story of his meeting with the murderer. In particular, he claimed first that he saw the murderer only from behind, and could not identify him, but then he said that defended himself against someone who attempted to strike him with a knife held in the left hand. And who must therefore have been facing him. The other unclear point is that Guede says he came out of the bathroom when he heard Meredith screaming and saw, at the same time, the murderer at the front door and Meredith lying on the floor. If Meredith was in her bedroom, as Guede himself confirmed shortly afterwards, it would not have been possible for him to see both. Finally, Guede will have to explain the two letters – “af” – which Meredith pronounced before she died and which he says he wrote on the wall. Forensic investigators have been unable to find any trace of them.
 
Meanwhile, Raffaele Sollecito invoked his right to remain silent during questioning yesterday morning at Perugia's Capanne prison. He “believes he has already exhaustively clarified the most delicate aspects during the review process”, explained Marco Bruso, one of his lawyers. “He did not know Guede at all”, added Raffaele Sollecito’s lawyers, who say they have supplied technical evidence on the shoeprint to rule out that it could have been left by him. The lawyers said that they would be applying for a further taking of evidence on this point. As they wait for the appeal to the Court of Cassation against the ruling by the review court not to authorise the suspects’ release, lawyers repeated their belief that the murder weapon was not a knife belonging to Raffaele Sollecito, and that it must have been thrown down the steep slope near the murder house.
 


English translation by Giles Watson
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http://www.corriere.it/english/articoli/2007/12_Dicembre/07/rudy.shtml

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How do murder trials work in Italy? Defense attorney Theodore Simon explains

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June 10, 2009, 10:00 pm

An Innocent Abroad
By TIMOTHY EGAN


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Amanda Knox, an American college student accused of murder, attended a trial session in Perugia April 18, 2009.


For five months now in the Umbrian hill town of Perugia, an American exchange student called “Angel Face” by the tabloid press has been on trial for the murder of her roommate. On Friday, for the first time, that student, Amanda Knox will testify on her own behalf.

The case against Knox has so many holes in it, and is so tied to the career of a powerful Italian prosecutor who is under indictment for professional misconduct, that any fair-minded jury would have thrown it out months ago.

That is not to say the Italian courts are not fair-minded. We kill innocent Americans often enough through our legal system, kill them because of shoddy police work or racial prejudice. Knox’s fate is in the hand of six jurors, two judges among them, who meet two days a week and will soon take a long summer break before reaching a verdict in the fall.

But this is not about whose system is better. This is about a high-spirited British student, Meredith Kercher, found strangled and stabbed in November of 2007 in the Perugian cottage she shared with Amanda Knox. Justice must be done. And in fact, a man has already been convicted of her murder – more about that in a moment.

But it is also about Amanda Knox, an equally high-spirited student whose life has been nearly ruined by this collision of predatory journalism and slipshod prosecution – “the railroad job from hell,” as one outside expert hired by CBS News concluded.

Amanda Knox was 20 years old, a Jesuit-educated student from a Seattle family without money, when she arrived in Italy for a term abroad. She had worked three jobs while attending the University of Washington to save money for this trip. She had no criminal record, was an athlete whose soccer tricks had earned her a grade school nickname of “Foxy Knoxy,” a lover of theater and the written word. And she was also a “little spacey,” in the words oft-used by friends to describe her.

She started seeing an Italian student, Raffaele Sollecito, the son of a prominent doctor. They spent the night of the murder at his apartment, she said, and no reliable witness or credible evidence has ever placed them at the crime scene. But within days of the killing, these two would be painted across Europe as thrill-seekers who killed a woman in a drug-fueled ****.

That may sound like a preposterous motive for a murder by college kids, but it’s a recurring obsession for the prosecutor in the Knox case.

“Case closed,” the Italian authorities said in those first days of November, 2007, even though they had yet to arrest the only man who has ever been found guilty of the murder.

As it happened, my daughter was studying in Italy at the same time – like Knox, una studentessa di Seattle. They did not know each other. But after the tabloid fallout, any female exchange student from Seattle was suddenly cast in a dark light.

After my daughter wrote about her experience for this newspaper, she found the paparazzi camped outside her room in Bologna. For all of that, our family consider ourselves honorary Italians; we lived there for a short while, our kids went to grade school there, and we love the country dearly.

Knox may not feel the same way. She spent nearly a year in jail without being charged. This, despite the fact that the only physical evidence found on the murder victim’s body was from someone else – a drifter with a drug problem named Rudy Guede.

Shortly after the crime, Guede fled Italy for Germany. His prints and his DNA were found in Kercher’s room and on the body. After being arrested, he underwent a fast-track trial and was found guilty last fall of complicity in the murder, and sentenced to 30 years in prison.

That should have been the end of it. Guede initially told one story: that he had sex with Kercher and then went into the bathroom, plugged in his iPod, and came out to find a strange man standing over her with a knife.

Then, months later, Guede changed his story: he said that strange man was now Sollecito, assisted by Amanda Knox in a sex game that went wrong. Neither of them had been named by him before. Guede denied being the killer.

But if Knox and Sollecito had killed Kercher, and were in that blood-splattered room, why is there no physical trace from them on the body? A print? A swap of DNA somewhere? After all, Kercher had died after a brutal strangulation, evidence of considerable struggle, with knife pokes in the neck.

“In every murder, the killer always leaves something behind and always takes something with him,” said Anne Bremner, a former prosecutor and prominent attorney, a member of International Academy of Trial Lawyers, who is assisting the Knox family, pro-bono – though she has no role in the actual defense. “All the forensic evidence points to Rudy Guede.”

The prosecution says at least one of the college students did leave something behind. They said they found a bra clasp with Sollecito’s DNA on it. But they discovered Kercher’s clasp nearly six weeks after the murder – a highly suspect and tainted piece of evidence from a contaminated crime scene.

Knox and Sollecito were arrested in large part because of what they said under duress by interrogation of the prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini. Remember that name. After being questioned all night without an attorney or a professional translator, Knox said some things in response to a series of hypothetical questions. This was initially trumpeted as a contradiction, or worst – a confession. A higher court later threw out the most damning statements.

Lurid details were leaked to a press corps that trolled through Knox’s college sex life – something they would never do to a man. Her social network computer pictures, showing the usual 20-year-old drinking faces, were splashed across front pages.

The Brits, in particular, had a field day. Locked from her house in the first days after it became a crime scene, Knox went to a store one day with Sollecito to buy emergency underwear. The British tabs bannered this as a g-string celebration of remorseless killers.

Little wonder that an Italian television poll found Amanda Knox a bigger personality than Carla Bruni.

Still, Knox’s statements were troubling. She and Sollecito gave different versions of what they had done the night of the killing, their memories clouded no doubt because they’d been smoking hashish. And Knox raised the possibility that a bar owner with an airtight alibi could have been involved.

The authorities later claimed they found the murder weapon, a kitchen knife, at Sollecito’s house. The knife had Knox’s DNA on the handle – no surprise, considering how much time she spent with her boyfriend. But it was also described, after repeated and highly questionable testing, as containing a tiny amount of DNA that might match that of the victim.

That DNA, according to several outside experts, was of such trace amounts, and was available only after numerous enhancements in the testing, that it could belong to many people. Also, the knife did not match the bloody outline of a knife at the crime scene.

So why push forward against Knox and Sollecito? They had no motive. The evidence is flawed and flimsy.

One explanation comes from Douglas Preston, a prominent best-selling American author who lived in the Florentine hills while researching a book about a serial killer never found, “The Monster of Florence,” co-authored by Italian journalist Mario Spezi.

After the serial murders stopped, a prosecutor decided to reopen the case. His theory was that the killer or killers were Satanists from an ancient cult that harvested body parts. That prosecutor is the same one in the Knox case – Giuliano Mignini.

“One day I’m walking down the streets of Florence when my cell phone rings,” said Preston in an interview. “They say, ‘This is the police – we’re coming to get you.’” For three hours, the author was interrogated by Mignini about possible connections to the case. His phone calls with co-author Spezi had been wiretapped, and Mignini asked him to explain things. Preston said he was told he must confess to perjury or obstruction of justice.

“I’m not the kind of person who could be broken down,” said Preston. “But now I’m terrified. My wife and kids are out having lunch, and I’m thinking I’m never going to see them again.”

Preston is indicted – Mignini has that power – but then told he can go free if he leaves Italy. The author departs the next day, banished, humiliated and deeply troubled.

Fast forward to the Amanda Knox interrogations. She’s 20, hardly a world sophisticate, who spoke only passable Italian at the time. Mignini used the same methods – a pattern now coming to light in the misconduct case against him, in which he is accused by a Florentine judge of intimidation and wiretapping journalists and other perceived enemies. He has denied any misconduct. When Preston looked at the case against Amanda Knox, he saw a rogue prosecutor and a miscarriage of justice.

“There was no evidence,” he said. “I realized it was all bogus. Mignini believes that Satan walks the land and anyone who is against him must be working for the other side.”

One more thing about this case: a civil suit by the victim’s family and the wrongly accused bar owner is going forth at the same time, meaning that highly prejudicial information that a criminal jury would not usually hear is being aired, before the same people.

Amanda Knox faces 30 years in prison if convicted. For Mignini, what is at stake is his reputation, his honor – no small things in Italy. I’m haunted by an observation from Rachel Donadio, my Times colleague in Rome. In last Sunday’s paper, in trying to explain Silvio Berlusconi, she wrote:

“In Italy, the general assumption is that someone is guilty until proven innocent. Trials – in the press and in the courts – are more often about defending personal honor than establishing facts, which are easily manipulated.”

All trials are about narrative. In Seattle, where I live, I see a familiar kind of Northwestern girl in Amanda Knox, and all the stretching, the funny faces, the neo-hippie touches are benign. In Italy, they see a devil, someone without remorse, inappropriate in her reactions.

In the end, of course, this is about the victim. Meredith Kercher is gone, a daughter no more, leaving behind the “brutality, the violence, and the great sorrow it has caused,” as her mother said in court last week.

But one life taken should not keep anyone from asking the right questions before ruining two others